From Protector of the Grey House:
“I have a plan in the works.” She looked to Vincent and Anthony. She didn’t want to continue to plan in front of the younger vampires. “Should we go someplace else and talk?”
Kari noticed the look and scowled. “You’re excluding us. Why?”
Natalia stared her down, not in the least bit worried. “What I’m discussing with Vincent doesn’t concern you.”
It was a lie. They could continue to talk in front of Julia, Markus and Kari, and would if Vincent demanded it. Natalia didn’t trust Kari and didn’t want the overly ambitious woman to be present to plan all the stages. Despite Julia’s best effort, she was never able to find too much information on the woman.